11/21/08 Iowa Press-Citizen: "Six same-sex Iowa couples, including a family from Iowa City, are listed as a plaintiff in Varnum v. Brien. If the court finds in favor of the plaintiffs, same-sex marriage will be legal in Iowa. Oral arguments in the case will be heard Dec. 9 ... Des Moines lawyer Dennis Johnson is serving as co-counsel for the Iowa case with Lambda Legal."
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008
Comments by Shannon Minter on Justice Kennard's vote to deny review
11/25/08 Washington Blade: The Washington Blade reports on statements by Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, during a 11/21/08 conference call. In In re Marriage Cases, Minter successfully argued before the California Supreme Court that same sex couples have the fundamental right to marry.
"Minter said [Justice] Kennard has made it clear in other decisions that she 'really does not like the court to have to decide very important issues on a shortened time frame.'
" 'There’s a very good chance that that was her concern and she would have liked us to file [our petitions] at a lower court,' he said. 'You really cannot draw any conclusion whatsoever about where she’s leaning based on that vote.' "
Minter believes that Prop. 8 presents the California Supreme Court with a "constitutional crisis," because if the Court upholds Prop. 8, that "would be the first time that an initiative has successfully been used to take a right away just from one single group of people."
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"Minter said [Justice] Kennard has made it clear in other decisions that she 'really does not like the court to have to decide very important issues on a shortened time frame.'
" 'There’s a very good chance that that was her concern and she would have liked us to file [our petitions] at a lower court,' he said. 'You really cannot draw any conclusion whatsoever about where she’s leaning based on that vote.' "
Minter believes that Prop. 8 presents the California Supreme Court with a "constitutional crisis," because if the Court upholds Prop. 8, that "would be the first time that an initiative has successfully been used to take a right away just from one single group of people."
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Tuesday, November 25, 2008
Legal experts puzzled over California justice's seeming reversal on Prop. 8
11/25/08 LA Times: Reporter Maura Dolan states that "a close reading of the court's one-page order suggests that gay-rights advocates may have lost [in California Supreme Court Justice Joyce Joyce Kennard] a usually predictable ally in their effort to overturn Proposition 8." UCLA law professor Brad Sears said that "[i]t definitely isn't a good sign" that Justice Kennard vote against review of Prop. 8 with respect to post-election marriages. UC Berkeley law professor Jesse Choper believes that she appears to think that Prop. 8 "isn't worth reviewing." Santa Clara University law professor Gerald Uelmen notes that the Chief Justice Ronald George and Justice Kennard will have a decisive role in the Court's ruling. He speculates that Justice Kennard may have concluded that a majority is unlikely to rule in a way she would otherwise favor. UC Irvine Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinksy said that "[s]he is a justice who will do what she thinks is right as to the law without any regard to what the political consequences are."
August 2008 Nolo Press Interviews With Attorney Fredrick Hertz
August 2008: Rich Stim of Nolo Press interviewed attorney Frederick Hertz on the status and history of same-sex marriage in California on 08/06/2008 and 08/31/2008.
Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center Virtual Town Hall Meeting on 11/25/08: Prop. 8: The Facts and Future
11/25/08: "The 90-minute online forum will be hosted by Karen Ocamb, news editor at Frontiers and IN Los Angeles. It will be broadcast live via streaming audio ... A recording of the town hall meeting will be available here within 24 hours." The LA Times has a brief summary here. The Palm Springs Desert Sun reports these comments by Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights:
“I'm worried about that myself,” Minter said. “People that do not like our community can come back at us and take other rights as well. They certainly have not been shy about doing that in other states.
“I'm confident at the end of the day that we will have equality. But we're going to have to fight for it and fit for it very hard.”
Monday, November 24, 2008
Anti-Prop 8 Counsel David Codell Visits Drexel Law
11/24/08 press release by Drexell University Earl Mack School of Law: David C. Codell, lead counsel for petitioners in Strauss v. Horton, "talked with Drexel Law students on Nov. 21 about efforts to repeal the recently enacted prohibition."
“Proposition 8 is the first time in California history that the initiative process has been
allowed to undermine equal protection,” Codell said.
“Proposition 8 is the first time in California history that the initiative process has been
allowed to undermine equal protection,” Codell said.
Minorities fear trend from California gay marriage ban
11/24/08 Reuters: This article quotes University of Southern California law Professor David Cruz and Stanford University law professor Jane Schacter, who notes that California has throughout its history a "track record" of minority discrimination.
Sunday, November 23, 2008
Prop. 8 is a tangle for state's high court
11/23/08 Sacramento Bee: In this opinion article, former Bee legal reporter Claire Cooper quotes Pacific McGeorge law Professor Lawrence Lavine, UCLA law Professor Eugene Volokh, and UC Davis law professor Vikram Amar. Cooper observes that courts have a "high responsibility" when reviewing equal protection challenges.
Lavine said that the outcome of Prop. 8 litigation will depend on how the California Supreme Court define the case. "If the subject is marriage, then Proposition 8 is a constitutional amendment. But if the subject is who can enjoy equal protection of the laws, it's a revision and a sea change in the way the constitution is applied to protect all of us."
Volokh appears to share the view of Alliance Defense Fund's senior counsel, Glen Lavy - that the Court will restore official recognition of marriage as limited to heterosexual couples.
In Hi-Voltage Wires Works Inc. v. City of San Jose, 24 Cal. 4th 537 (2000), the California Supreme Court upheld Proposition 209, which prohibits affirmative action in university admissions, public employment, and government contracts. Amar believes a Court which upheld Prop. 8 is unlikely to overturn Prop. 8.
Cooper states that the "U.S. Supreme Court 70 years ago said courts have a special duty to protect groups whose access to the political process has historically been hampered by public prejudice." (She appears to reference dictum by Justice Stone in U.S. v. Carolene Products Co., 304 U.S. 144, 152-53 n.4 (1938). Justice Stone identified a central purpose of "strict scrutiny" review of equal protection claims - to examine whether " prejudice against discrete and insular minorities ... tends seriously to curtail the operation of those political processes ordinarily to be relied upon to protect minorities.") "Amar says that declaration is 'the very premise of modern equal protection law.' Echoes can be found throughout the state Supreme Court's decisions interpreting the California equal protection clause."
Lavine said that the outcome of Prop. 8 litigation will depend on how the California Supreme Court define the case. "If the subject is marriage, then Proposition 8 is a constitutional amendment. But if the subject is who can enjoy equal protection of the laws, it's a revision and a sea change in the way the constitution is applied to protect all of us."
Volokh appears to share the view of Alliance Defense Fund's senior counsel, Glen Lavy - that the Court will restore official recognition of marriage as limited to heterosexual couples.
In Hi-Voltage Wires Works Inc. v. City of San Jose, 24 Cal. 4th 537 (2000), the California Supreme Court upheld Proposition 209, which prohibits affirmative action in university admissions, public employment, and government contracts. Amar believes a Court which upheld Prop. 8 is unlikely to overturn Prop. 8.
Cooper states that the "U.S. Supreme Court 70 years ago said courts have a special duty to protect groups whose access to the political process has historically been hampered by public prejudice." (She appears to reference dictum by Justice Stone in U.S. v. Carolene Products Co., 304 U.S. 144, 152-53 n.4 (1938). Justice Stone identified a central purpose of "strict scrutiny" review of equal protection claims - to examine whether " prejudice against discrete and insular minorities ... tends seriously to curtail the operation of those political processes ordinarily to be relied upon to protect minorities.") "Amar says that declaration is 'the very premise of modern equal protection law.' Echoes can be found throughout the state Supreme Court's decisions interpreting the California equal protection clause."
Friday, November 21, 2008
Vikram Amar: Analyzing the Two Key Arguments in The California Supreme Court Case Regarding Proposition Eight: Part One in a Series
11/21/08 FindLaw's Writ: In this first part of a projected series, U.C. Davis law professor Vikram Amar considers the import of Justice Kennard's vote to deny review of petitions except on the status of pre-election marriages, and whether the California Supreme Court is likely to see Prop. 8 as an amendment or a revision.
Gerald Uelmen on assessing whether a constitutional initiative is a revision: Does his "test" have bearing on Prop. 8 petitions?
Gerald Uelmen, Handling Hot Potatoes: Judicial Review of California Initiatives after Senate v. Jones, 41 Santa Clara L. Rev. 999, 1017, 1019 (2000-2001):
"In defining 'revision,' the supreme court should recognize that legislative or convention deliberation or debate hold several advantages over the initiative process as instrument of change." (1017) Uelmen believes that the shortcomings of initiatives - such as drafting gaffes and obfuscation by special interests - become "most important in the context of complex changes, which require ongoing interpretation and application ... Rather than merely offering a label [as in "fundamental" change] to reinstate a conclusion, the court should be asking whether the change the measure accomplishes is significant enough that the adversary deliberation of a legislative proposal or a constitutional convention is necessary. "
"Ultimately, the value we are seeking to uphold is the value of rational discourse before we make changes in our constitution with widespread impact. The test of what is a 'revision' must include an assessment of what was lost in the elimination of that rational discourse by the use of the initiative process." (1019)
Can Uelmen's test be applied to Prop. 8, even though it does not make a "complex" change? Because opponents of Prop. 8 contend that it denies equal protection and a fundamental right to a "suspect class," should they underscore the need for a deliberative process, by considering evidence of the corrosive, if successful, effects of prejudice and fearmongering on persuading a bare majority of voters to pass Prop. 8? Uelmen notes that the anti-crime initiative, Proposition 115, "was presented to the public in a media blitz of coat hangers and gas chambers," even though the Court overturned Proposition 115 as an unconstitutional restriction on judicial power. (1017)
"In defining 'revision,' the supreme court should recognize that legislative or convention deliberation or debate hold several advantages over the initiative process as instrument of change." (1017) Uelmen believes that the shortcomings of initiatives - such as drafting gaffes and obfuscation by special interests - become "most important in the context of complex changes, which require ongoing interpretation and application ... Rather than merely offering a label [as in "fundamental" change] to reinstate a conclusion, the court should be asking whether the change the measure accomplishes is significant enough that the adversary deliberation of a legislative proposal or a constitutional convention is necessary. "
"Ultimately, the value we are seeking to uphold is the value of rational discourse before we make changes in our constitution with widespread impact. The test of what is a 'revision' must include an assessment of what was lost in the elimination of that rational discourse by the use of the initiative process." (1019)
Can Uelmen's test be applied to Prop. 8, even though it does not make a "complex" change? Because opponents of Prop. 8 contend that it denies equal protection and a fundamental right to a "suspect class," should they underscore the need for a deliberative process, by considering evidence of the corrosive, if successful, effects of prejudice and fearmongering on persuading a bare majority of voters to pass Prop. 8? Uelmen notes that the anti-crime initiative, Proposition 115, "was presented to the public in a media blitz of coat hangers and gas chambers," even though the Court overturned Proposition 115 as an unconstitutional restriction on judicial power. (1017)
Eva Jefferson Paterson: Prop 8 Overhauled the Constitution
11/21/08 The Recorder (subscription required): Eva Jefferson Paterson is president and a founder of the Equal Justice Society, a San Francisco-based civil rights legal organization. Equal Justice Society was one of several civil rights groups that filed a petition to overturn Prop. 8. (Asian American Legal Center et al. v. Horton et al., Cal. Supreme Court case no. S168281). Paterson says that by "purporting to deny equal protection to one group, Prop 8 threatens the most basic principle of our democracy: that all people have an inalienable right to equal treatment under the law ... Our petition, like the petitions the court agreed to hear in its ruling this past Wednesday, argues that Prop 8 is a radical change to our state constitution that cannot be accomplished through an initiative. If it only takes a bare majority to take away the most fundamental guarantee of equal protection, then we are truly all at risk."
Campaign for California Families' Efforts to Intervene in Prop 8 Litigation Denied
11/20/08 SF Weekly: The Yes on 8 Campaign sent a mass e-mail to its members on November 19th, faulting the Campaign for California Families (CCF), whose request to intervene the California Supreme Court declined. According to the e-mail, "Campaign for California Families...actually campaigned against Proposition 8 until a short time before the election. Since we are the only organization representing the official proponents and the campaign committee that was responsible for passing Prop 8, allowing outside groups to participate in the defense of Prop 8 will only harm our chances of success." Matthew Staver, CCF attorney and founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, would not speculate on why Yes on 8 opposed CCF's attempt to intervene, but observed that both groups aim to "defend and support Proposition 8."
Thursday, November 20, 2008
Supreme Court Defers Ruling on Last Three Prop. 8 Cases
11/20/08 California Constitution post, by appellate practitioner Steve Mayer, of Howard Rice.
Santa Clara County Counsel Ann Ravel: Santa Clara County Fights for Equal Right to Marry
11/12/08 San Jose Mercury News: Santa Clara County Counsel Ann Ravel explains why Santa Clara County has joined the legal challenges to Proposition 8:
"This county is part of the legal challenge to Proposition 8 because we recognize the importance of upholding our most cherished legal principles. If California is allowed to vote our way back into discrimination, we betray the values that are central to our society. The challenge to Proposition 8 upholds the social pact of equality that helped form the foundation of our society and ensures that each of us can count on fair treatment under the law."
The Santa Clara County Counsel's website also has a description of the case it joined, City and County of San Francisco v. Horton, under "Ongoing Cases."
"This county is part of the legal challenge to Proposition 8 because we recognize the importance of upholding our most cherished legal principles. If California is allowed to vote our way back into discrimination, we betray the values that are central to our society. The challenge to Proposition 8 upholds the social pact of equality that helped form the foundation of our society and ensures that each of us can count on fair treatment under the law."
The Santa Clara County Counsel's website also has a description of the case it joined, City and County of San Francisco v. Horton, under "Ongoing Cases."
California Supreme Court grants review, denies immediate stay in Proposition 8 lawsuits
You can find the Court's order here and the press release here.
11/19/08 Yes on 8 press release; 11/19/08 Equality California press release
11/19/08 Leonard Link: New York Law School Professor Arthur S. Leonard offers these comments on the "suprise holdout," Justice Joyce Kennard. Although she was in the In re Marriage cases majority, she would have denied review except on the status of marriages conducted between June and November:
"Tea-leaf readers will be pondering the significance of Justice Kennard's action, since she was part of the 4-3 majority that decided the case. Does this signal that she has doubts about the merits of petitioner's case, or merely that she has objections to the issue being presented in this forum in this manner? Inquiring minds are dying to know....."
11/19/08 The Volokh Conspiracy: UCLA School of Law Professor Eugene Volokh thinks that "that the California Supreme Court will reject the state constitutional challenges to Prop. 8, and conclude that Prop. 8 amends the state constitution in a way that supersedes the court's interpretation of the preexisting constitutional provisions." He adds that the Court is unlikely to reach the question of the federal constitutional guarantee of equal protection under Romer v. Evans.
11/19/08 National Review - Ed Whalen's "Bench Memos": M. Edward Whelan III is the President of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He directs EPPC’s program on The Constitution, the Courts, and the Culture. He writes that "Justice Kennard, who joined the majority ruling in May, voted to deny the petitions without prejudice, so that would seem to suggest that she’s not eager to take the extraordinary action of invalidating Proposition 8. But all of this is reading tea leaves from afar."
11/19/08 Alliance Defense Fund press release: “In America, we respect the results of fair elections,” said ADF Senior Counsel Glen Lavy. “We look forward to working with allied attorney Andy Pugno to protect the people’s will expressed in Proposition 8, which restored the definition of marriage to the California Constitution. The lawsuits against the amendment are just one more effort by the far-left to redefine marriage.”
11/20/08 Daily Journal (subscription required): Laura Ernde reports this comment by Santa Clara University Law Professor Gerald Uelmen:
"I think it makes sense for [the Court] to resolve all of these issues at once," Uelmen said. "I don't think we can read anything into it in terms of which way the court is leaning on the merits."
Ms. Ernde also states that, in Uelmen's view, "the briefing schedule is fast, especially considering the weighty constitutional issues at stake."
11/20/08 The Recorder: Mike McKee reports reactions by San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera, Chief Deputy City Attorney Therese Stewart, National Center for Lesbian Rights Executive Director Kate Kendell, California Attorney General Jerry Brown, Andrew Pugno, the Folsom lawyer who represents the Proposition 8 Official Proponents, Santa Clara University Professor Gerald Uelmen, and Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for California Families, whose intervention the Court declined.
"Kendell said it was 'impossible to read the tea leaves' on Kennard's position to dismiss most of the petitions. And Stewart said it would be 'hard to infer' her reasoning."
"Pugno said Kennard's stand 'seemed to indicate that the lawsuits had so little merit that she thought that they should be dismissed all together' and 'reflect her interest in what I think will become the central issue -- and that is whether the marriages performed during the time before the election will be recognized and, if so, how?' "
Justice Kennard "may believe the parties challenging the validity of the initiative itself," Uelmen said, "should go through the hoops of filing a case in the superior court and getting a resolution [at] the court of appeal before coming back to the Supreme Court; but that the question about the marriages should proceed expeditiously."
11/20/08 Los Angeles Times: Maura Dolan and Jessica Garrison report comments from several legal scholars:
"'If the justices were really leaning towards upholding Prop. 8, and that was clear, they would have wanted to do it as quickly as possible and put the issue to rest,' said UCLA law professor Brad Sears, an expert on sexual orientation law."
"UC Berkeley law professor Goodwin Liu said the court's refusal to put Proposition 8 on hold pending a ruling did not suggest that the court would eventually uphold the measure. 'A stay is an extraordinary measure,' he said."
Shannon Price Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, was asked about Justice Kennard's vote to deny review with respect to post-election marriages. "I am neither worried nor complacent. I just feel like with all of them we have our work cut out to convince them. There is no telling where any of them stand."
"'We see today as a grand slam,' said Andy Pugno, general counsel of Protect Marriage.com. 'Everything we asked for was granted' ... "He said Kennard's vote 'seemed to indicate that she thought the lawsuits had . . . little merit.' "
11/20/08 SF Chronicle: Bob Egelko reports the following reactions:
"'It's always hard to read tea leaves, but I think Justice Kennard is saying that she thinks the constitutionality of Prop. 8 is so clear that it doesn't warrant review,' said Stephen Barnett, a retired UC Berkeley law professor and longtime observer of the court."
Dennis Maio, a former research attorney for Justice Stanley Mosk, said that for Prop. 8 opponents, "I would not think it [apparently Justice Kennard's vote] would be encouraging."
11/20/08 Sacramento Bee: Aurelio Rojas reports comments by Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the UC Irvine School of Law, Shannon Minter, Andrew Pugno, and Northern California ACLU attorney Elizabeth Gill. While he finds the grant of review "predictable," Chemerinsky said he was "surprised" that the Court would also consider whether Prop. 8 applies to marriages between June and November. [At least, that development appears to have surprised Chemerinsky; Rojas strikes me as ambiguous on this point. Michael Ginsborg]
11/20/08 San Diego Union-Tribune: Greg Moran reports the following comments:
" 'It doesn't tell us anything about how the justices will rule on the merits of the litigation,' said Jennifer Pizer, a lawyer with the LAMBDA Legal, a same-sex civil rights group. 'It simply tells us six justices agree this is an issue of statewide importance.' "
Asked about Justice Kennard's vote, "Andrew Pugno, the lawyer for the Proposition 8 proponents, said "it indicates that she thinks the challenges are 'so flimsy the court should not spend time on it' and instead focus on the marriages that have happened. He added that “Major changes to the constitution over the years, such as Proposition 13 or term limits, were challenged as revision, too. They were always upheld.”
Shannon Minter comments on separation of powers and equal protection.
"Persuading the court to overturn the measure could be an uphill battle, said Glenn Smith, a constitutional law professor at California Western School of Law in San Diego."
11/20/08 NY Times: " 'The California Supreme Court has never articulated criteria for what makes something an amendment versus a revision,' said Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the law school at the University of California, Irvine. 'So I don’t think you can predict anything because there is so little law.' " The NY Times reports Andrew Pugno's expectation that the Court will uphold Prop. 8; Jennifer Pizer's calim that it “essentially nullifies the equal protection guarantee"; and Joseph Grodin's belief that recall pressure on the majority judstices in In re Marriages is not intense now as it was when voters removed three Court justices in 1986.
11/20/08 Reuters: Reuters provides comments by Shannon Minter and Andrew Pugno.
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11/19/08 Yes on 8 press release; 11/19/08 Equality California press release
11/19/08 Leonard Link: New York Law School Professor Arthur S. Leonard offers these comments on the "suprise holdout," Justice Joyce Kennard. Although she was in the In re Marriage cases majority, she would have denied review except on the status of marriages conducted between June and November:
"Tea-leaf readers will be pondering the significance of Justice Kennard's action, since she was part of the 4-3 majority that decided the case. Does this signal that she has doubts about the merits of petitioner's case, or merely that she has objections to the issue being presented in this forum in this manner? Inquiring minds are dying to know....."
11/19/08 The Volokh Conspiracy: UCLA School of Law Professor Eugene Volokh thinks that "that the California Supreme Court will reject the state constitutional challenges to Prop. 8, and conclude that Prop. 8 amends the state constitution in a way that supersedes the court's interpretation of the preexisting constitutional provisions." He adds that the Court is unlikely to reach the question of the federal constitutional guarantee of equal protection under Romer v. Evans.
11/19/08 National Review - Ed Whalen's "Bench Memos": M. Edward Whelan III is the President of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He directs EPPC’s program on The Constitution, the Courts, and the Culture. He writes that "Justice Kennard, who joined the majority ruling in May, voted to deny the petitions without prejudice, so that would seem to suggest that she’s not eager to take the extraordinary action of invalidating Proposition 8. But all of this is reading tea leaves from afar."
11/19/08 Alliance Defense Fund press release: “In America, we respect the results of fair elections,” said ADF Senior Counsel Glen Lavy. “We look forward to working with allied attorney Andy Pugno to protect the people’s will expressed in Proposition 8, which restored the definition of marriage to the California Constitution. The lawsuits against the amendment are just one more effort by the far-left to redefine marriage.”
11/20/08 Daily Journal (subscription required): Laura Ernde reports this comment by Santa Clara University Law Professor Gerald Uelmen:
"I think it makes sense for [the Court] to resolve all of these issues at once," Uelmen said. "I don't think we can read anything into it in terms of which way the court is leaning on the merits."
Ms. Ernde also states that, in Uelmen's view, "the briefing schedule is fast, especially considering the weighty constitutional issues at stake."
11/20/08 The Recorder: Mike McKee reports reactions by San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera, Chief Deputy City Attorney Therese Stewart, National Center for Lesbian Rights Executive Director Kate Kendell, California Attorney General Jerry Brown, Andrew Pugno, the Folsom lawyer who represents the Proposition 8 Official Proponents, Santa Clara University Professor Gerald Uelmen, and Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for California Families, whose intervention the Court declined.
"Kendell said it was 'impossible to read the tea leaves' on Kennard's position to dismiss most of the petitions. And Stewart said it would be 'hard to infer' her reasoning."
"Pugno said Kennard's stand 'seemed to indicate that the lawsuits had so little merit that she thought that they should be dismissed all together' and 'reflect her interest in what I think will become the central issue -- and that is whether the marriages performed during the time before the election will be recognized and, if so, how?' "
Justice Kennard "may believe the parties challenging the validity of the initiative itself," Uelmen said, "should go through the hoops of filing a case in the superior court and getting a resolution [at] the court of appeal before coming back to the Supreme Court; but that the question about the marriages should proceed expeditiously."
11/20/08 Los Angeles Times: Maura Dolan and Jessica Garrison report comments from several legal scholars:
"'If the justices were really leaning towards upholding Prop. 8, and that was clear, they would have wanted to do it as quickly as possible and put the issue to rest,' said UCLA law professor Brad Sears, an expert on sexual orientation law."
"UC Berkeley law professor Goodwin Liu said the court's refusal to put Proposition 8 on hold pending a ruling did not suggest that the court would eventually uphold the measure. 'A stay is an extraordinary measure,' he said."
Shannon Price Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, was asked about Justice Kennard's vote to deny review with respect to post-election marriages. "I am neither worried nor complacent. I just feel like with all of them we have our work cut out to convince them. There is no telling where any of them stand."
"'We see today as a grand slam,' said Andy Pugno, general counsel of Protect Marriage.com. 'Everything we asked for was granted' ... "He said Kennard's vote 'seemed to indicate that she thought the lawsuits had . . . little merit.' "
11/20/08 SF Chronicle: Bob Egelko reports the following reactions:
"'It's always hard to read tea leaves, but I think Justice Kennard is saying that she thinks the constitutionality of Prop. 8 is so clear that it doesn't warrant review,' said Stephen Barnett, a retired UC Berkeley law professor and longtime observer of the court."
Dennis Maio, a former research attorney for Justice Stanley Mosk, said that for Prop. 8 opponents, "I would not think it [apparently Justice Kennard's vote] would be encouraging."
11/20/08 Sacramento Bee: Aurelio Rojas reports comments by Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the UC Irvine School of Law, Shannon Minter, Andrew Pugno, and Northern California ACLU attorney Elizabeth Gill. While he finds the grant of review "predictable," Chemerinsky said he was "surprised" that the Court would also consider whether Prop. 8 applies to marriages between June and November. [At least, that development appears to have surprised Chemerinsky; Rojas strikes me as ambiguous on this point. Michael Ginsborg]
11/20/08 San Diego Union-Tribune: Greg Moran reports the following comments:
" 'It doesn't tell us anything about how the justices will rule on the merits of the litigation,' said Jennifer Pizer, a lawyer with the LAMBDA Legal, a same-sex civil rights group. 'It simply tells us six justices agree this is an issue of statewide importance.' "
Asked about Justice Kennard's vote, "Andrew Pugno, the lawyer for the Proposition 8 proponents, said "it indicates that she thinks the challenges are 'so flimsy the court should not spend time on it' and instead focus on the marriages that have happened. He added that “Major changes to the constitution over the years, such as Proposition 13 or term limits, were challenged as revision, too. They were always upheld.”
Shannon Minter comments on separation of powers and equal protection.
"Persuading the court to overturn the measure could be an uphill battle, said Glenn Smith, a constitutional law professor at California Western School of Law in San Diego."
11/20/08 NY Times: " 'The California Supreme Court has never articulated criteria for what makes something an amendment versus a revision,' said Erwin Chemerinsky, the dean of the law school at the University of California, Irvine. 'So I don’t think you can predict anything because there is so little law.' " The NY Times reports Andrew Pugno's expectation that the Court will uphold Prop. 8; Jennifer Pizer's calim that it “essentially nullifies the equal protection guarantee"; and Joseph Grodin's belief that recall pressure on the majority judstices in In re Marriages is not intense now as it was when voters removed three Court justices in 1986.
11/20/08 Reuters: Reuters provides comments by Shannon Minter and Andrew Pugno.
" 'It would be a radical departure from 150 years of precedent (to overturn Proposition 8),' said Pugno, calling the challenge a 'long shot.'
" 'I think the larger question is going to be what is the status of the marriages that were created prior to the election,' Pugno said, adding that he had not taken a legal stand on the issue."
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Wednesday, November 19, 2008
NCLR Director Shannon Minter and Chapman University School of Law John Eastman Dean Debate Prop 8 on the Laura Ingraham Talk Radio Show
11/19/08 PAXALLES: An unidentifiable blogger describes this debate hosted by Laura Ingrahm, a talk show radio broadcaster, former white-collar defense attorney at Skadden, Arps, and speechwriter in the Reagen Administration. To listen to this program, you must pay for a subscription.
The Recorder announces 12/10/08 Recorder Roundtable, "NOW WHAT? CHALLENGING PROPOSITION 8 AND ADVISING SAME-SEX COUPLES IN THE MEANTIME."
The Recorder Roundtable will be moderated by Morrison & Foerster partner James Brosnahan. Panelists include "Bobbie J. Wilson, Litigation Director with Howard Rice and lead pro bono counsel for the City and County of San Francisco, Mayor Gavin Newsom, and former Assessor Mabel Tang in the marriage cases for same-sex couples."
Prop. 8 hinges on who decides: judges or voters
11/19/08 SF Chronicle:
According to Ethan Leib, a constitutional law professor at UC Hastings, it is "very hard to argue that [Proposition 8, a] narrowly written constitutional amendment changes the fundamentals of our state government ... [Because California has a] "flexible and inviting (constitutional) amendment procedure ...the people, rather than the judges, get to say what the Constitution means."
Vikram Amar, a constitutional law professor at UC Davis, adds that if the California Supreme Court rules that Proposition 8 is a constitutional revision, such a ruling could "lead us down a slippery slope." If Proposition 8 is a constitutional revision because unpopular minorities require constitutional protection from majority rule, then the same argument could apply to criminal defendants.
Former California Supreme Court Justice Joseph Grodin said that "You shouldn't be able to take away those [fundamental] rights [of a minority] simply by putting another measure on the ballot and having a majority vote."
In 1978, voters passed Proposition 7, restoring the dealth penalty and declaring that the death penality is not cruel and unsual punishment. In People v. Frierson, 25 Cal. 3d 142 (1978), the California Supreme Court upheld Proposition 7, despite its 1972 ruling that the death penalty is cruel and unsual punishment. UC Hastings Law Professor Calvin Massey said, "I can't think of any more fundamental right than to not have my government put me to death. That was found to be an amendment, not a revision."
According to Ethan Leib, a constitutional law professor at UC Hastings, it is "very hard to argue that [Proposition 8, a] narrowly written constitutional amendment changes the fundamentals of our state government ... [Because California has a] "flexible and inviting (constitutional) amendment procedure ...the people, rather than the judges, get to say what the Constitution means."
Vikram Amar, a constitutional law professor at UC Davis, adds that if the California Supreme Court rules that Proposition 8 is a constitutional revision, such a ruling could "lead us down a slippery slope." If Proposition 8 is a constitutional revision because unpopular minorities require constitutional protection from majority rule, then the same argument could apply to criminal defendants.
Former California Supreme Court Justice Joseph Grodin said that "You shouldn't be able to take away those [fundamental] rights [of a minority] simply by putting another measure on the ballot and having a majority vote."
In 1978, voters passed Proposition 7, restoring the dealth penalty and declaring that the death penality is not cruel and unsual punishment. In People v. Frierson, 25 Cal. 3d 142 (1978), the California Supreme Court upheld Proposition 7, despite its 1972 ruling that the death penalty is cruel and unsual punishment. UC Hastings Law Professor Calvin Massey said, "I can't think of any more fundamental right than to not have my government put me to death. That was found to be an amendment, not a revision."
Proposition 8 Litigation Generates a Mountain of Paper
11/19/08 Leonard Link blog: New York Law School Professor Arthur S. Leonard summarizes issues raised in the petitions and letters against Proposition 8; in the requests for stay of implementation; in the preliminary response by the California Attorney General; and in a Pacific Justice Institute letter to deny review and stay.
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Yes on 8 attorney Andrew Pugno tells LA Times that voters could reinstate the ban on interracial marriage as a constitutional amendment
11/19/08 LA Times: Opponents of Proposition 8 have asked the California Supreme Court to consider a hypothetical constitutional initiative to reimpose a ban on interracial marriage. Maureen Dolan reports that, according to Yes on 8 Campaign attorney Andrew Pugno, "voters could indeed resurrect a ban on mixed-race marriages if the issue had been decided purely on state constitutional grounds."
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Tuesday, November 18, 2008
California Attorney General Jerry Brown asks California Supreme Court to review Proposition 8 challenges, and allow Proposition 8 to take effect
Click here for the reply filed on 11/17/08 by the California Attorney General's Office.
11/18/08 LA Times: Maureen Dolan of the LA Times reports this comment by Santa Clara University Professor Gerald Uelmen:
"Because Brown defined the legal dispute as a 'statewide concern,' it makes sense to bypass the lower courts and just go ahead and hear them."
11/18/08 Recorder: "I've never litigated this case for the last 4 1/2 years under the illusion that the AG is on the side of the people," Liberty Counsel president Mathew Staver said. "I've never seen a real vigorous defense of the marriage laws from the beginning. That's why it's important to have Liberty Counsel in the case."
Oakland appellate practitioner Jon Eisenberg said, "Right now, the big threshold issue is, 'Do we take up the case now or do we take up the case later?' It's quite significant that the attorney general has said, 'Do it now.'"
11/18/08 SF Chronicle: Proposition 8 "does not alter the balance of power between the branches of government, nor does it undermine or eliminate fundamental rights," said Mary McAlister, a lawyer for the Campaign for California Families.
11/18/08 The Daily Californian: Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, believes that UC Berkeley Boalt Hall School of Law may file a brief in the current round of Proposition 8 litigation.
11/17/08 AP: Andrew Pugno, an attorney for the Yes on 8 campaign, said, 'Everyone knows the AG opposed Proposition 8, did everything he could to undermine it and it still passed anyway.
“There is little hope he would make much effort at all to defend Prop. 8."
11/17/08 San Jose Mercury News
11/18/08 LA Times: Maureen Dolan of the LA Times reports this comment by Santa Clara University Professor Gerald Uelmen:
"Because Brown defined the legal dispute as a 'statewide concern,' it makes sense to bypass the lower courts and just go ahead and hear them."
11/18/08 Recorder: "I've never litigated this case for the last 4 1/2 years under the illusion that the AG is on the side of the people," Liberty Counsel president Mathew Staver said. "I've never seen a real vigorous defense of the marriage laws from the beginning. That's why it's important to have Liberty Counsel in the case."
Oakland appellate practitioner Jon Eisenberg said, "Right now, the big threshold issue is, 'Do we take up the case now or do we take up the case later?' It's quite significant that the attorney general has said, 'Do it now.'"
11/18/08 SF Chronicle: Proposition 8 "does not alter the balance of power between the branches of government, nor does it undermine or eliminate fundamental rights," said Mary McAlister, a lawyer for the Campaign for California Families.
11/18/08 The Daily Californian: Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, believes that UC Berkeley Boalt Hall School of Law may file a brief in the current round of Proposition 8 litigation.
11/17/08 AP: Andrew Pugno, an attorney for the Yes on 8 campaign, said, 'Everyone knows the AG opposed Proposition 8, did everything he could to undermine it and it still passed anyway.
“There is little hope he would make much effort at all to defend Prop. 8."
11/17/08 San Jose Mercury News
Monday, November 17, 2008
Chin Shows Feisty Side at Conference
11/17/08 Cal Law Pad: Covering the 11/14/08 Boalt Hall Conference on the Supreme Court of California, Recorder reporter Mike McKee reports on comments by Santa Clara University Law Professor Gerald Uelmen and other In re Marriage Cases panelists.
A federal bailout for Prop. 8: A Colorado battle may offer a means of challenging California's same-sex marriage ban
11/17/08 LA Times: In this opinion article, Brian E. Gray, professor at the UC Hastings College of the Law, argues that Romer vs. Evans, 517 U.S. 620 (1996), might provide the U.S. Supreme Court sufficient precedent to invalidate Proposition 8 if challenged under the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Yes on 8 Campaign attorney Andrew Pugno on "Legal Defense of Prop 8 Election Results"
11/17/08 Traditional Marriage blog: Andrew Pugno, attorney for the Yes on 8 Campaign, summarizes issues raised in the motion to intervene by the five official Proponents of Proposition 8, and the ProtectMarriage.com – Yes on 8 campaign.
Pugno claims that the "whole point of the initiative process is for the people to be able to pass laws despite opposition from government leaders. It just makes no sense that we should have to rely solely on hostile government leaders to defend the will of the people when they opposed the measure in the first place."
Pugno claims that the "whole point of the initiative process is for the people to be able to pass laws despite opposition from government leaders. It just makes no sense that we should have to rely solely on hostile government leaders to defend the will of the people when they opposed the measure in the first place."
Sunday, November 16, 2008
Comments Reported At Boalt Hall Conference on the Supreme Court of California
At the 11/14/08 Boalt Hall Conference on the Supreme Court of California, the LA Times and other media report on comments by speakers in the panel discussion - moderated by Justice Kathryn Werdegar - of "the pre-Proposition 8 right of gays and lesbians to marry."
11/15/08 Los Angeles Times: "Santa Clara University Law School Professor Gerald Uelmen opined that the court could not overturn Proposition 8 without also admitting that its May 15 decision improperly revised the state Constitution...Werdegar, the panel's moderator, frowned and ignored the comment...Earlier she had said that the state high court must provide independent review when state constitutional issues were at stake, even if it meant overturning a vote of the people."
11/15/08 Los Angeles Times: "Santa Clara University Law School Professor Gerald Uelmen opined that the court could not overturn Proposition 8 without also admitting that its May 15 decision improperly revised the state Constitution...Werdegar, the panel's moderator, frowned and ignored the comment...Earlier she had said that the state high court must provide independent review when state constitutional issues were at stake, even if it meant overturning a vote of the people."
Saturday, November 15, 2008
Calif. homosexuals try to 'gut democratic process,' says Alliance Defense Fund counsel Glen Lavy
11/15/08 OneNewsNow.com (a division of the American Family News Network): ""We see the opponents of marriage and democracy trying to bypass the political process and use the courts to overturn the will of the people," said Glen Lavy, senior counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund. "This lawsuit is nothing but a brazen attempt to gut the democratic process. It's really a reprehensible lawsuit." Lavy "reminds" the California Supreme Court about the prospect of a judicial recall if the Court overturns Proposition 8.
Friday, November 14, 2008
Prop 8 in the California Supreme Court -- Update
11/14/08 Waldlaw Blog: Deborah Wald is Founder of the Wald Law Group, Chair of the National Family Law Advisory Council of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, and Co-Chair of the Board of Directors of Our Family Coalition. In this post, she quotes from the November 10th amicus curiae letter filed by several civil rights groups. She finds that they have chosen "strong words" to defend of equal protection and constitutional democracy, and contends that a fundamental issue in the litigation concerns the meaning of constitutional democracy.
Supreme Court Wants More Briefs on Prop 8
11/12/08 Cal Law Legal Pad: San Francisco Chief Deputy Attorney Therese Stewart was asked about the California Supreme Court's request for reply by the California Attorney General:
“This is what I would call a toe in the water. But it’s serious. The court could have dismissed [the cases] right out of hand.”
“This is what I would call a toe in the water. But it’s serious. The court could have dismissed [the cases] right out of hand.”
State high court interested in Prop. 8 suits
11/14/08 SF Chronicle: Senior assistant attorney general Christopher Krueger comments on the California Supreme Court's request to reply to preliminary questions about the Proposition 8 litigation, including whether the Court should grant review and suspend Proposition 8 while it decides the case. He said that "it's fair to infer that the court is looking at these (cases) very carefully," because usually the Court dismisses attempts to take cases directly to the Court, without allowing the other side to reply.
Irving Greines is an appellate lawyer who filed a letter by the Beverly Hills Bar Association and California Women Lawyers in support of the petition for writ of mandate. According to Greines, the Court's request to the AG "indicates that the Supreme Court sees the seriousness and immensity of the issue, and before it takes any action it wants to hear from Jerry Brown."
Irving Greines is an appellate lawyer who filed a letter by the Beverly Hills Bar Association and California Women Lawyers in support of the petition for writ of mandate. According to Greines, the Court's request to the AG "indicates that the Supreme Court sees the seriousness and immensity of the issue, and before it takes any action it wants to hear from Jerry Brown."
Comments on NPR by Erwin Chemerinksy and Mathew Staver
11/13/08 Morning Edition:
Chemerinksy argues that Proposition 8 is not retroactive:
"There is a general presumption in California law that changes in rights apply only prospectively, and by this notion, since Prop 8 doesn't say it applies retroactively, any existing same-sex marriage would still be valid."
Liberty Counsel founder Mathew Staver argues that Proposition 8 is retroactive:
"When [the U.S. Constitution's 13th Amendment] was passed, it abolished slavery. You were not grandfathered in as a slave holder, and you did not carry on your property interest in a slave after passage of the 13th Amendment."
Chemerinksy argues that Proposition 8 is not retroactive:
"There is a general presumption in California law that changes in rights apply only prospectively, and by this notion, since Prop 8 doesn't say it applies retroactively, any existing same-sex marriage would still be valid."
Liberty Counsel founder Mathew Staver argues that Proposition 8 is retroactive:
"When [the U.S. Constitution's 13th Amendment] was passed, it abolished slavery. You were not grandfathered in as a slave holder, and you did not carry on your property interest in a slave after passage of the 13th Amendment."
PJI Defends Prop. 8 at California Supreme Court
11/13/08 Press Release by Pacific Justice Institute: "'It is being argued that voters can never undo judicial decisions - even when the courts insert themselves into public policy debates,' noted PJI Chief Counsel Kevin Snider. 'If accepted, that argument will eviscerate California's initiative process.'"
ADF Senior Counsel Glen Lavy: Reaction shows pretense of tolerance is over
11/13/08 The San Diego Union Tribune: Repeating his claim that Proposition 8 litigation "guts the democratic process," Lavy adds that it is a "tough sell to the millions of voters who have followed the democratic process to protect marriage twice."
Thursday, November 13, 2008
ADF senior counsel Glen Lavy: Don't tinker with matrimony
In this 11/12/08 blog post to USA Today, Alliance Defense Fund senior counsel Glen Lavy contends "that domestic partnerships are a Trojan horse used to obtain same-sex 'marriage,'" on the grounds that they are not needed for the only purpose Lavy ascribes to them - to convey benefits among gay partners.
Comments to the LA Times by Joseph Grodin, Erwin Chemerinsky, Gerald Uelman, and Glen Lavy
UC Irvine Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky told the LA Times (click here for the 11/6/08 article) that "[t]here is very little law about what can be done by amendment as opposed to revision." Santa Clara University Law School Professor Gerald Uelman finds the case a "stretch," while former Supreme Court Justice Joseph Grodin believes that the legal challenge has merit. According to Alliance Defense Fund senior counsel Glen Lavy, the lawsuits represent "a brazen attempt to gut the democratic process."
The law and Prop. 8: California's Supreme Court will have to untangle two important legal questions.
In his 11/10/08 LA Times article, U.C. Berkeley Law Professor Gordon Liu says that even if it does not subtantially change the government's framework, Proposition 8 "targets a historically vulnerable group and eliminates a very important right. Changing the Constitution -- the state's paramount law -- in such a momentous way arguably calls for deliberative rather than direct democracy. Indeed, as early as the nation's founding, our constitutional tradition has favored representative democracy over simple majority rule when it comes to deciding minority rights."
Why Prop 8 Can – and Must – Be Overruled
Paul Hogarth, a former a law school intern at Equality California, claims that "our state’s equal protection clause can become Swiss cheese" if voters may, by a simple majority, adopt constitutional amendments that deprive minorities of equal protection.
DC Metro Reports Comments By Shannon Minter, Legal Director, National Center of Lesbian Rights
11/13/08: Washington, D.C., Metro Weekly:
'''The California Constitution itself makes it very clear that a change to one of the underlying principles of our state constitution cannot be enacted through a simple majority vote,'' Minter continues. 'It has to be done through a more deliberative process. So the question is, does Proposition 8 significantly change a core, underlying principle of our constitution? We think that the answer is absolutely yes. It's eliminating the principle of equal protection. If you can take away equal protection from one minority group, you can take it away from any group, and that's a very dangerous change.'''
'''The California Constitution itself makes it very clear that a change to one of the underlying principles of our state constitution cannot be enacted through a simple majority vote,'' Minter continues. 'It has to be done through a more deliberative process. So the question is, does Proposition 8 significantly change a core, underlying principle of our constitution? We think that the answer is absolutely yes. It's eliminating the principle of equal protection. If you can take away equal protection from one minority group, you can take it away from any group, and that's a very dangerous change.'''
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
NYU Law Professor Arthur S. Leonard: Proposition 8 Passage Generates Lawsuits and Battle Over Meaning
11/11/08 Leonard Link: NYU Law Professor Arthur Leonard provides an overview and analysis of issues raised in the Proposition 8 litigation. He finds petitioners' reliance on Raven v. Deukmejian, 52 Cal.3d 336 (1990), "a difficult argument to make" for the view that Proposition 8 represents a constitutional revision, not an amendment.
Saturday, November 8, 2008
O.C. couple pursue same-sex marriage rights in federal court
11/7/08 Orange County Register: The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear a previous, 2004 case brought by plaintiff couple to force Orange County to recognize their marriage. In the new lawsuit, the "complaint seeks to have the state constitution, as amended by Prop. 8, be declared unconstitutional under rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution, said their attorney, Richard [C.] Gilbert." Gilbert also announced his endeavor to place an initiative on the 2010 ballot that would divide California into two states. "New California" would have a constitution that recognized the fundamental rights of all people.
Friday, November 7, 2008
11/7/08 Sacramento Bee Reports Comments By Gerald Uelmen
11/7/08 Sacramento Bee:
"Gerald Uelmen, a law professor at Santa Clara University and a constitutional law expert, called the suit 'a long shot.'
"Only once, Uelmen said, has the state Supreme Court 'struck down any portion of an initiative because it was a constitutional revision.'
"He said the 1991 case involved an initiative – Proposition 115 – that made sweeping changes by requiring the bill of rights in the state constitution to conform with the U.S. Constitution.
"'I don't see this court saying that what (it) did in the marriage case was such a substantial revision of the California Constitution that you can't undo it because it's a revision of the constitution,' Uelmen said."
"But Katherine Darmer, a professor at Chapman University School of Law, believes 'there is some chance that this litigation will succeed.'
"'This court has already found that gays and lesbians have equal protection," she said.
Darmer sees some parallels in the civil rights movement of African Americans, where courts intervened to protect the rights of minorities.
"In the early 1960s, for example, the California Supreme Court overturned a voter initiative that repealed the Rumford Act, the state's fair housing law.*
"Uelmen has a different take on the next step in California for supporters of gay marriage.
"'It'll be on the ballot again because I don't think the court is going to come to the rescue,' he said."
[*Here is the context for Katherine Darmer's reference. In 1964, by a two-to-one margin, voters passed Proposition 14. It amended the state constitution (under article I, section 26) to repeal fair housing laws and to bar the legislature from enacting laws to remedy racial discrimination in housing. The state and U.S. Supreme Courts - in Prendergast v. Snyder, 64 Cal. 2d 877 (1966), and Reitman v. Mulkey, 387 U.S. 369 (1967) - ruled that the amendment was unconstitutional on equal protection grounds under the 14th Amendment. I wish to credit Stan Yogi and Elaine Elinson as my source of this information. They are authors of a forthcoming work on the history of civil liberties in California, and they shared a draft chapter from their book.]
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"Gerald Uelmen, a law professor at Santa Clara University and a constitutional law expert, called the suit 'a long shot.'
"Only once, Uelmen said, has the state Supreme Court 'struck down any portion of an initiative because it was a constitutional revision.'
"He said the 1991 case involved an initiative – Proposition 115 – that made sweeping changes by requiring the bill of rights in the state constitution to conform with the U.S. Constitution.
"'I don't see this court saying that what (it) did in the marriage case was such a substantial revision of the California Constitution that you can't undo it because it's a revision of the constitution,' Uelmen said."
"But Katherine Darmer, a professor at Chapman University School of Law, believes 'there is some chance that this litigation will succeed.'
"'This court has already found that gays and lesbians have equal protection," she said.
Darmer sees some parallels in the civil rights movement of African Americans, where courts intervened to protect the rights of minorities.
"In the early 1960s, for example, the California Supreme Court overturned a voter initiative that repealed the Rumford Act, the state's fair housing law.*
"Uelmen has a different take on the next step in California for supporters of gay marriage.
"'It'll be on the ballot again because I don't think the court is going to come to the rescue,' he said."
[*Here is the context for Katherine Darmer's reference. In 1964, by a two-to-one margin, voters passed Proposition 14. It amended the state constitution (under article I, section 26) to repeal fair housing laws and to bar the legislature from enacting laws to remedy racial discrimination in housing. The state and U.S. Supreme Courts - in Prendergast v. Snyder, 64 Cal. 2d 877 (1966), and Reitman v. Mulkey, 387 U.S. 369 (1967) - ruled that the amendment was unconstitutional on equal protection grounds under the 14th Amendment. I wish to credit Stan Yogi and Elaine Elinson as my source of this information. They are authors of a forthcoming work on the history of civil liberties in California, and they shared a draft chapter from their book.]
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Unpacking the Challenges to Prop. 8: A Q&A With USC’s David Cruz
11/7/08 Wall Street Journal Law Blog : David Cruz, a constitutional law expert at the University of Southern California, answers questions about the Proposition 8 litigiation.
Thursday, November 6, 2008
Same-sex marriage issue back to state top court; statement by California Attorney General Jerry Brown
11/06/08 SF Chronicle: California Attorney General Jerry Brown says that "It is my belief that the courts will hold that these same-sex marriages entered into are valid."
California Prop 8 Aftermath: Strauss v. Horton, the State Court Challenge
11/06/08 The Faculty Lounge: UC Hastings School of Law Professor Calvin Massey doubts that Strauss v. Horton petitioners will convince the Court that Proposition 8 is a constitutional revision:
"The contention of the Prop 8 opponents in Strauss v. Horton is essentially that an elimination of a judicial intepretation of California's equal protection guarantee works such a fundamental change in the constitutional structure than it can only be accomplished by revision. Yet, Frierson and Crawford upheld initiatives that did just that. (Crawford did so at most by implication.) The Prop 8 opponents distinguish both cases (the Frierson change applied to all Californians, Prop 8 only applies to gays and lesbians; Crawford only involved a remedy), but I am not convinced by either attempt to distinguish these cases. Raven involved a complete abdication of constitutional independence; Prop 8 is a specific limit on the intepretation of California's equal protection guarantee but otherwise leaves California courts free to do what they have always done in interpreting the state constitution. "
Massey concludes that "[f]or better or worse (no pun intended), this is an issue that ultimately must be fought out in the context of the federal Constitution. ."
"The contention of the Prop 8 opponents in Strauss v. Horton is essentially that an elimination of a judicial intepretation of California's equal protection guarantee works such a fundamental change in the constitutional structure than it can only be accomplished by revision. Yet, Frierson and Crawford upheld initiatives that did just that. (Crawford did so at most by implication.) The Prop 8 opponents distinguish both cases (the Frierson change applied to all Californians, Prop 8 only applies to gays and lesbians; Crawford only involved a remedy), but I am not convinced by either attempt to distinguish these cases. Raven involved a complete abdication of constitutional independence; Prop 8 is a specific limit on the intepretation of California's equal protection guarantee but otherwise leaves California courts free to do what they have always done in interpreting the state constitution. "
Massey concludes that "[f]or better or worse (no pun intended), this is an issue that ultimately must be fought out in the context of the federal Constitution. ."
Proposition 8 Passes: What Now?
11/05/08 Stephen Bainbridge.com Punditry blog: UCLA law professor Stephen Bainbridge discusses two legal issues raised by the Proposition 8 litigation:
1) Is Proposition 8 an amendment or revision?
Relying on Amador Valley Joint Union High Sch. Dist. v. State Bd. of Equalization, 22 Cal.3d 208, 149 Cal.Rptr. 239 (Cal 1978), Bainbridge concludes that "Prop 8 looks like an amendment."
2) Is Proposition 8 retroactive?
Posting comments by USC Law Professor David Cruz, Bainbridge observes that uncertainty surrounding retroactive application "was a strong argument against Prop 8 as it was worded."
1) Is Proposition 8 an amendment or revision?
Relying on Amador Valley Joint Union High Sch. Dist. v. State Bd. of Equalization, 22 Cal.3d 208, 149 Cal.Rptr. 239 (Cal 1978), Bainbridge concludes that "Prop 8 looks like an amendment."
2) Is Proposition 8 retroactive?
Posting comments by USC Law Professor David Cruz, Bainbridge observes that uncertainty surrounding retroactive application "was a strong argument against Prop 8 as it was worded."
Herrera Joined by Los Angeles, Santa Clara Counterparts in Suing to Invalidate Prop 8
11/05/08 Press Release of San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera: In his press release, Herrera states that "If allowed to stand, Prop 8 so devastates the principle of equal protection that it endangers the fundamental rights of any potential electoral minority— even for protected classes based on race, religion, national origin and gender."
Wednesday, November 5, 2008
ACLU Press Release: Legal Groups File Lawsuit Challenging Proposition 8, Should It Pass
11/5/08 ACLU Press Release: Comments by Jenny Pizer, a staff attorney with Lambda Legal, Elizabeth Gill, a staff attorney with the ACLU of Northern California, and Shannon Minter, Legal Director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights.
Californians Enshrine Discrimination in Constitution: Prop 8 passage ensures questions
11/05/08 Cruz Lines: USC Law Professor David Cruz says that "[e]ven if [Proposition 8] bars California from continuing to treat those couples as married, it probably (though this remains to be worked out) would not stop other states from recognizing the pre-Prop 8 marriages."
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What Will Happen to California Same-Sex Marriages?
11/05/08 Volokh Conspiracy: UCLA School of Law Professor Eugene Volokh examines four outcomes of Proposition 8 for California same-sex marriages. He continues to doubt that they will remain valid. See his 6/23/08 post on whether Proposition 8 is retroactive.
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